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Post by Tamber on Nov 22, 2015 19:08:32 GMT
Lyonize suggested starting a separate thread for the debut tonight. Pop in and post - it'd be great to see some live discussions! If you haven't been able to see the special yet and want to avoid spoilers, ya best avoid this thread for now. I'm excited 
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 22:26:40 GMT
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Post by Zorayda on Nov 23, 2015 5:32:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 8:04:56 GMT
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Post by Tamber on Nov 23, 2015 19:22:44 GMT
Didn't blow my mind, but there are several things I did love about it  The animation works well for some characters - Bunga and Ono look pretty great. The voice acting/casting for Ono and Beshte are also great - I love that crackle in Ono's voice, and Beshte is just precious X3 Songs aren't too bad either - they'll surely be stuck in my head. And I LOVED the score! They really pulled the Swahili in nicely! All around, I'd say it's well done for a 45min kid-oriented feature. I'm in  |
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Post by Zorayda on Nov 23, 2015 19:40:41 GMT
I loved the two lioness cubs  I'm really happy they've got a lot of great female characters! And the group for the Guard is great, it's nice to see something other than lions take the spotlight for sure. I have the hyena's song stuck in my head, it was so good! |
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Post by KanuTGL on Nov 23, 2015 20:32:58 GMT
I got to seeee it! *bounces* Right, so, my overall score for The Lion Guard is pretty high The story felt a bit too big for the format though - I reckon they could easily have made it a feature length film. There was enough interesting material in there to expand on for sure! I felt some things went ahead a bit too fast and there wasn't time to really explore some scenes, like the "Kion's lament" part for example. I suppose that they want to keep it fast-paced to keep the younger audience's attention though. I hope we'll get more of the backstory to the actual Guard as the series progresses... There should be a lot of cool things to cover! Also the music was awesome! It felt true to the original film, even though, you know, it wasn't Hans Zimmer/Elton John xP I loove the theme song ^_^ And the hyena song is fantastic, both the song itself and the visuals during the scene. I saw a comment saying how it was like a song straight out of The Nightmare Before Christmas, and I sure agree. So cool. It is bugging me that Kiara has been changed so much though. From rebellious "What if I don't wanna be queen" who would go her own way and break daddy's rules to playing the perfect princess. I feel like Kion has "stolen" her role a bit and I think it's contradicting the whole "We want to stay true to the original as much as possible" thing that the makers of the show have all been saying. Fingers crossed that we'll get some explanation to that too eventually... But, yeah, on the whole I'm pretty impressed with The Lion Guard and I'm definitely looking forward to the show next year (Also the art during the credits. Love <3) |
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Post by cheezeegriff on Nov 23, 2015 23:44:31 GMT
How the fleck do I see it from Australia?
Grr.
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Post by Tamber on Nov 24, 2015 4:07:55 GMT
cheezeegriff do you have access to Putlocker? KanuTGL I agree the story felt too big for 45 minutes. It takes place over the course of one day, but its hard for me to become really invested in this epic plight over the course of that tiny time frame. Oddly, though, they didn't really cram that much content in - SO much of the special was redundant (dialogue, even the songs to some degree) and didn't really push the story forward. I kept finding myself saying, "Yeah, strongest fastest fiercest okay okay, lets move on." I feel like they could have been more efficient with the writing. This is how I'm rationalizing the Kiara thing in my head: TLG takes place somewhere between "We Are One" and Kiara's first hunt. I could get myself to believe that during that gap, Kiara went through a snooty, somewhat disingenuous period during which she took her royalty really seriously. That's how she comes off in the show, a little too into the role for her own good. The idea is interesting to me because it adds something to Kiara's personal struggle with responsibility. Simba's grumpy old man status is certainly consistent with SP though X__X
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Post by cheezeegriff on Nov 24, 2015 4:52:58 GMT
Putlocker might work... seems a bit dodge though. It popped up with a full page advert and had the "are you sure you want to leave this page?" thing open when I tried to close it. But I'll give it a go. Thank you:).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 4:56:59 GMT
For those who still cant watch it please tell them I have been letting others know they can watch it on my page because...... I have taken the time to record The Lion Guard Return of the roar In parts, it on my Facebook page, I have worked hard on this and have risked Homework time just to do this all for you, you are very much welcome, took most of my phone battery but I switched it to my iPad to finish the ending up, so there you go, you may watch them all under my video section on my Character page here, I will not be posting for awhile so I can give everyone time and a chance to watch. ok I REALLY need to return to my studies now, enjoy and have fun watching. www.facebook.com/gothprincesskiara/ok here is my review walk through Starting out with when Simba gets knocked by the baobab fruit, its kinda funny :ha: I am starting to warm up to Bunga cause as a honey badger, honey badgers dont care and he shows that alot he is so funny sometimes, he makes stupid rash moves before thinking about it, because honey badgers don't care, they are tough. But I dont like how he says unbungaleivable, its like an negative anti-Bunga. Its SO cool to see a different side to Pride Rock, I have always wanted to see more of Pride Rock, I hope we get to see more Pride Rock in the series . and once Rafiki cleared out the Lion Guard den, I was like so that's how you clean out a Den, with a gust of wind. The Lion Guard den was so beautiful, and it even comes with water. Im so curious as to know who those past Lion guard members were besides scar, my guess they either got killed or they ran away. I would also say the voices are as close as they could get them and with Kiara talk about going through a major voice change. I think I was right that the Hyenas lair was were scar sang be prepared if you noticed in the painting. Background scenery is SPOT ON, AND BEAUTIFUL. wish I could say the same for the animation structure. :roll: Ok yes Zuri sound too much of a drama queen and literally but as an animal lover I cant help but love her anyway, and im sure breaking a claw hurts just as much as breaking a nail, I would complain too, she is cute both Zuri and Tiffu are so dang cute and UNIQUE, I cant get Zuka Zama out of my head, I'm still getting used to that song. and :lol: It cracks me up how Kiara says Bunga was Brave and stupid and Bunga respons with thanks Kiara :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I find that hilarious! Notice how there is a difference now between Outsiders and Outlanders? I also like tonight we strike they did a good creepy job on it. I like Ono sharp vision its cool how he can see so well. I also like Beshte, he has a cool attitude, he is chill, strong with cool attitude. Despite that Fulis rossets bother me her voices fits her for a cheetah. Ok why did Kions trying to do a roar have to be a squeek it should have been more of a little kitten meow. I have no problem with Kiara as I have said before, everyone goes through changes i there life time and Kiara had some changes in her life time, she changed drastically thoughout her life. I dont like how there is the saying till the pridelands end, I never want them to end. And its great on how Bunga saced Kiara cause Honey Badgers do have a smell that they release when warding of invaders or whatever. so yes they do have powerful fart |
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Post by Leorgathar on Nov 24, 2015 5:17:00 GMT
I finally got to watch it, and I gotta say I'm very pleased. I quite enjoyed it! Overall I think they did a fantastic job with this, it sure has its flaws which we already discussed before as more news kept coming, but in the end it all works for me. I too wish this had been done into a feature film instead of being a pilot episode, with more time the story could have been refined so nicely, but hey, at least they managed to slip in some really good songs, I loved them all! Especially Tonight We Strike, it was priceless xD. Kion singing was utterly adorable too. I only cringed in two instances. The first one was upon hearing Zuri's whinning, it felt so overacted and it was certainly annoying, but I guess that's the point in that character's existence, be the poor character that annoys everyone. Maybe in the series she'll prove to have some interesting arc, who knows. The second scene... well, it's Bunga's little "strategy" for saving Kiara from the gazelles... ugh seriously? I really hope the series don't overuse fart jokes like this >< Oh and did anyone notice Zazu? He shows up for a few frames and only has a small unimportant line, but hey, he's there! I thought they had totally forgot about him. This is how I'm rationalizing the Kiara thing in my head: TLG takes place somewhere between "We Are One" and Kiara's first hunt. I could get myself to believe that during that gap, Kiara went through a snooty, somewhat disingenuous period during which she took her royalty really seriously. That's how she comes off in the show, a little too into the role for her own good. The idea is interesting to me because it adds something to Kiara's personal struggle with responsibility. Yeah, I had the same thoughts about Kiara's change in attitude, and it's really the only way it could work. Maybe after the 'We Are One' song/pep talk, Kiara started to see things in a different light, and Simba began giving her some special training on her role as queen, while forging a much closer relationship with her, just like Mufasa did with him. Although the way all of this go unexplained in the movie itself is kinda frustrating. Hopefully there'll be a chance for Kovu, or the lion outlanders to show up at some point. As ABB pointed out on Skype, Janja says "A new Lion Guard could be very bad news for us hyenas AND all the other Outlanders." Could he mean the Outlanders we're familiar with? |
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Post by Ruby_Fehu on Nov 24, 2015 23:56:25 GMT
I've just watched this with Pulsar and I've got to say I'm half and half. I did enjoy some bits but other bits I just disliked so much. The hyena's song and Kion's lament were pretty good, I really enjoyed them but Zuka Zama annoyed me so much.
I'm glad Nala and Simba haven't changed much, Nala is still incredibly sarcastic like in the original films and even her expressions she still had that "I told you so smirk." li,e she does in the originals. Nala, was probably the closest to all the original characters, in my opinion. I'm half and half about Simba he's still the original grumpy old man, like Zulu said, which I'm pleased about but he seems to be rather biased in his relationship with his cubs, he seems to have more faith in Kiara than Kion, most parents are unbiased about their children because in the future things may cause trouble for a family relationship if there was bias (I speak from experience). Nala again was unbiased like I'd expect of a parent.
Kiara, Zuri and Tifu. I didn't like Kiara, she wasn't like Kiara at all, yes there may have been a change of her maturity but even then people do slip back into how they used to be, or have moments at least. Like say, I can be really ditzy but recently I've been a typical adult and mature but I STILL have the occasional ditzy moment. There was no relapse of that with Kiara she was just a completely different character with Kiara's name and family. Even her colouring wasn't like Kiara in the 2nd film (in the second film she had the same pelt colour as Simba yet in TLG it was closer to Nala's than Simba's).
Zuri, I GET that this is for kids and they need the defining feature of 'this is a boy, this is a girl' that young children understand clearly (as I've said). But Zuri did actually get on my nerves after a little while because they were too pushy with her girly girl ways of acting. Kiara and Tifu were both at least partially tomboyish as well as girly girls. And the way she spoke just drove me crazy. If they weren't pushy I wouldn't mind, like in MLP for example; Rarity is very feminine but it is in an endearing way. Zuri wasn't.
Tifu, I can't really comment on her because she didn't get much screen time, but I like her a little. She shows the loyalty of what's expected of best friends and she was balanced out in femininity and masculinity in what little we saw of her. (She was willing to get her paws dirty but things like bugs made her cringe a little).
The art style for the backgrounds and landscape etc. was really nice and quite detailed, and even the characters had quite nice artwork. Some character's art work looked out of place though, (the second snake we saw for example, I thought was a little weird). I did like how they did each have a defining feature (Kion's spots, Zuri's beauty mark, Tifu's little fur tufts etc.), it wasn't super great artwork but it was good at least. The animation was pretty rough at first but I will give them credit it steadily improved as the 'film' progressed.
Overall, I liked it but not so much that it's something I would go back over and watch again and again like I do with a lot of films. I'm glad they got at least two of the original voice actors back and if they couldn't at least the new voice actors sounded similar enough that you couldn't tell much of a difference, (Timon and Zazu for example). It was a good show and I think it will go far, it was ideal for a children's show and I will probably watch the episodes because it is Lion King and it did leave enough of a mark to make me want to see more, but not religiously, if that makes sense.
I do also hope that we'll be able to see some of the outsiders or even have them referenced. I'd hate it if it came across that those characters never existed, (Kovu, Zira, Vitani etc.)
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Post by Tamber on Nov 25, 2015 1:43:57 GMT
Zuri, I GET that this is for kids and they need the defining feature of 'this is a boy, this is a girl' that young children understand clearly (as I've said). But Zuri did actually get on my nerves after a little while because they were too pushy with her girly girl ways of acting. The thing is, the show isn't pointing to any of the guys and saying, "BOY. BOY. LOOK THIS ONE'S A BOY!" the way they are with Zuri. That's what bugs me about her, besides the fact that she's incredibly annoying. I don't see how Kiara or Tiffu are tomboyish. They're just not whining or screaming at bugs or talking about their shiny nails. They seem like regular young girls - young *people* - to me, so kudos to the writers for that. |
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Post by The-odd-crow on Nov 25, 2015 14:20:20 GMT
I saw a comment saying how it was like a song straight out of The Nightmare Before Christmas, and I sure agree. So cool. I didn't even think about that but it's so true! The Hyena song and it's art style completely gave me chills, it was awesome <3 Loved the movie/pilot in general, sweet characters and a great mix of personalities (They all felt original to one another, no copies), Catchy songs, an overall african feel (I think it's nice they're trying to get in new swahili catch phrases ^^ ) and the whole Lion Guard backstory really gave more flesh to the old characters! I look forward too see what the fandom will create with that  Totaly agree that it felt like they could have given more time too some scenes, but like you said Kanu I guess that was most likely so kids wouldn't get bored ;A; (damn short attentive kids haha) And I really didn't have any problem with Zuri, I don't see it as their way to say "This is girl" but more just of a a way a character is. We must remember that some real children just act like that becouse that's how they are, my cousin was just like that when I was small, and my close friends niece too ^^ I think it's okey to portray that personality since it is how some kids actually are, and thats okey ^^ (for both girls and boys). All in all, I'm looking at 'TLG: Return of The Roar' for the second time now and I will definitely be one to follow the series religiously haha xD |
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Post by abalancedbreakfast on Nov 26, 2015 23:41:29 GMT
Hmm... Okay, it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. I cringed once or twice, don't get me wrong, and the whole story did feel rushed with bad pacing, but these pilots tend to be. I think this may last more than one season if all goes well.
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Post by cheezeegriff on Nov 27, 2015 23:35:15 GMT
I agree. It was pretty good, with a few cringeworthy moments. I thought they could have depicted a few things better. For instance Bunga reached Kiara right at the end, just in time to divert the last few seconds of gazelles. And their 'plan' for attacking the hyenas seemed to work for no reason. Mufasa's ghost was too smiley and not really scary enough, like he was in the original cartoon - I suppose the that's more of a personal preference. Kiara's friends are annoying and Timon looks weird. Is his head too big or something? Beshte and Ono didn't say much, but seem like cool characters. Hope we get to learn more about them later. There were a few scenes where the lions walking looked terrible, but only a few. I wish they gave more attention to all the bird's wings. Wings should be quite impressive things. They seemed a little small on all the characters.
But overall, I enjoyed the energy and the characters. Bunga is cool, as is Kion. He was a little silly at the beginning but then he took his role seriously. Looking forward to the next episode:).
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Post by Tamber on Nov 28, 2015 0:10:16 GMT
One thing that's bugged me is that the hyenas planned to attack "while the animals are in their slumber," and "wake them up with our teeth." And then ... that didn't happen at all. It wasn't really even at night |
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Post by cheezeegriff on Nov 28, 2015 1:09:53 GMT
Yes. And this may just be a problem for Australians, but in the song the Hyenas looked rather like evil koalas.
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Post by Zorayda on Nov 28, 2015 7:00:19 GMT
One thing that's bugged me is that the hyenas planned to attack "while the animals are in their slumber," and "wake them up with our teeth." And then ... that didn't happen at all. It wasn't really even at night Yeah I noticed that right away. Maybe Janja got hungry and impatient |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 20:06:30 GMT
ABOUT KIARA
I would say once Kiara had a pep talk with her father after the we are one lesson at the end of that scene, Kiara sees the bird again and looks over the pride lands with a smile, and I think when she sits down she finally accepts the reality that she will be queen, that's when Kiara changed her mind and took Queen lessons seriously, then Kion was born sometime after Kiaras birth, and She made some cub friends. And as for the voice, as people grow up there voices changes drastically, I would say TLG kiara voice was closer to the adult kiara so I would say this is the Kiara right before she becomes a teenager. And she has been taking hunting lessons along with learning about the circle of life.
case closed for me.
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Post by Leorgathar on Dec 3, 2015 22:20:57 GMT
Hehe that's what I've been saying all along I don't think that's the way the TLG writers intended it, it feels more like they just ignored her behaviour in TLK2:SP and got the character wrong. But I too think that transition with the We Are One pep talk can work fairly well. It actually works nicely when you watch TLK2 and stop right after the My Lullaby song, which serves well as a cliffhanger foreshadowing what's to come in the future. Then you watch TLG as much as the series last, and finally, you resume watching TLK2 picking up again from the Kovu story arc where the cliffhanger left, and you take the rest of the story as the grand finale for the whole The Lion King saga. I mean, I suppose TLG will be mostly about dealing with Outlanders, wether they're hyenas, crocodiles, or who knows, maybe even the lion Outlanders could appear at some point in the series (*fingers crossed for the fan-service*). But at the end of TLK2 Zira is defeated and the remaining Outlanders end up joining the Pridelanders. Since there are no Outlanders left, there's finally total peace in the Pridelands, and so The Lion King ends. That's only the way I see it, though, the series could still prove me wrong. Who knows where the Guard members are during the final battle xD |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 15:59:23 GMT
KOVU, VITANI AND NUKA ARE COMING BACK! SPREAD THE WORD FAST! www.rotoscopers.com/…/kovu-guest-stars-on-the-lion-…/More about new characters added here www.ew.com/…/lion-king-series-lion-guard-premiere-da…Theme song The series will start on January 15th Next Monday the Disney Junior will have a preview on iTunes I cannot believe they are bringing all three of Zira’s cubs into one of the series, it makes me really want to believe I think our messages to Disney begging for it really got heard, if this was the case good job on all your hard work every one! here is a preview |
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Post by abalancedbreakfast on Dec 10, 2015 18:04:52 GMT
KOVU, VITANI AND NUKA ARE COMING BACK! SPREAD THE WORD FAST! www.rotoscopers.com/…/kovu-guest-stars-on-the-lion-…/More about new characters added here www.ew.com/…/lion-king-series-lion-guard-premiere-da…Theme song The series will start on January 15th Next Monday the Disney Junior will have a preview on iTunes I cannot believe they are bringing all three of Zira’s cubs into one of the series, it makes me really want to believe I think our messages to Disney begging for it really got heard, if this was the case good job on all your hard work every one! here is a preview hang on, the Kovu thing isn't official until it's on imdb or an official statement explicitly from Disney is made. Until then it is speculation. |
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Post by Lyonize on Dec 10, 2015 18:40:23 GMT
I asked Jason if it was true.
CONFIRMED
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Post by Tamber on Dec 10, 2015 18:47:14 GMT
Yas, Lyonize, way to drop some knowledge! it makes me really want to believe I think our messages to Disney begging for it really got heard, if this was the case good job on all your hard work every one! I promise you the episodes were in post-production long before anyone had the thought to complain. |
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Post by Lyonize on Dec 10, 2015 18:53:29 GMT
Yas, Lyonize , way to drop some knowledge! They don't call me " Legendary Researcher of Stuff and Things" for nothin'.  it makes me really want to believe I think our messages to Disney begging for it really got heard, if this was the case good job on all your hard work every one! I promise you the episodes were in post-production long before anyone had the thought to complain. Yeah, this has been in the works since before we knew about the show. That's the way this sort of thing works. |
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Post by abalancedbreakfast on Dec 10, 2015 20:01:57 GMT
I asked Jason if it was true. CONFIRMED[hmm/font]pics or it didn't happen |
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Post by Leorgathar on Dec 10, 2015 20:07:24 GMT
Way to go, Lyonize! Once again you've proven yourself worthy of your title Now that we know it's true I can't help but feel so excited! But since it's Marsden reprising his role, that'd mean Kovu will be older than his cub version in TLK2:SP. I suppose he'll be a teenager this time, which wouldn't be so bad, if you ask me  |
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Post by Lyonize on Dec 10, 2015 20:11:26 GMT
I literally gave a link. You quoted the link I gave. What do you want from me?!  |
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I'm really happy they've got a lot of great female characters! And the group for the Guard is great, it's nice to see something other than lions take the spotlight for sure.
Also added Christmassy snow and banner :3
I'm currently getting some uni work done before heading to the post office. What's up with you?