Plot Discussion Thread

[KanuTGL]

Because I think we could still use one.

This is for general plot and character discussion; for matters concerning all RPers involved.

Single questions concerning the RP are directed to Katari's Q&A-thread.

[KanuTGL]

So, yes. And, if you think we don't need this thread, feel free to delete it.

Now... I was thinking, maybe it's time to start up a Part 3 soon? If so, I think now (or somewhere in the next few posts) is a pretty good time to start one.

[Kirsui]

^ meh agrees with that. I can then finally bring in Mwezi, even though I signed her up ages ago... XD And yesh, she'll go to Feraga, just like I said earlier when I first signed her up for this RP.

We should try to get Part2 finished on a nice way, and then kick the RP back up and running with a fresh new thread.

[Katari]

I agree that this sort of thread would be useful. The Q&A is meant to be more general...though any questions from here that would be useful for new members to know the answers to, will be ported over there, as well.

Anyhow, I think needs only a few good closer posts, and then we can move on to a Part III. Only question is, what should we name it...? *hmm*

[Kirsui]

katari said:

Only question is, what should we name it...? *hmm*

Feraga Strikes Back?!
*cough*someone-has-been-watching-too-much-Star-Wars*cough*

[This Land]

kirsui said:

katari said:

Only question is, what should we name it...? *hmm*

Feraga Strikes Back?!
*cough*someone-has-been-watching-too-much-Star-Wars*cough*

Hahaha xD Yes, let's go for that one

But names, yes... I've been thinking about that too, but I haven't got any ideas yet... xP

(Kanu here btw =P)

[Lorien]

Well, since the other was "The Dawn of Revenge" could we do something like..."The Coming Twilight"? Hehe, to go along with the time of day thing.
Twilight is just before it gets dark, when you know it's coming, but you can still see the light, yet not the sun. Dark times are coming in the RP, but there is still that glimmer of light...of hope in some of the hearts of the characters.

Just a suggestion.

[Katari]

*nods* I second Lorrie's idea.

[Kirsui]

Kir thinks she agrees with Lor's idea! ;D

[KanuTGL]

kirsui said:

Kir thinks she agrees with Lor's idea! ;D

So does Kanu

So shall we try and wrap Part 2 up somehow?

[Lorien]

Sounds like a good plan to me!

[Deleted]

well I'm not the mod for The Great Battle anymore, I've handed it over to Tari (Katari) with Sui still being in charge of Fantasy section.
But sounds good to me anyway

[Katari]

Yes, we can certainly go ahead and wrap up Part II as soon as possible. I need to get up off my duff and make a post for this one. And then Part III can begin! ^_^

[KanuTGL]

I'd like to make a last post with Sumai and Satoba too before we start up with part III. I'll get that done this afternoon :3

[Katari]

This is in regards to the discussion in the sign-up thread, where Kirsui and I have decided to not allow any more characters to join the "wanderers" group -- you must now join either the Burja or the Feraga pride.

I just wanted to answer this concern:

rok said:

errmm.. .. It would be good if some wanderers become regular pride members. but that's up to char's owners to decide.

Yes, that does happen -- I know it has happened to Chaza (my character, who has since left that pride) and Kirsui in this RP specifically, and maybe to others that I can't remember.

I'm going to "play this by ear"; if more wanderer characters become members of one or the other of the prides, and restore more of the correct balance in those numbers, then I'd be willing to consider having Kir re-open the wanderers list for new people to join.

The decision was made so things would stay logical; it just doesn't make sense for two prides (combined) to be outnumbered by the homeless rogues that are passing through their lands.

So, that's the thought behind the official decision. Any further discussion should be carried on in this thread.

[Tamber]

Sounds like a good idea to me. However, I will keep my Timbre a wanderer, one because I have already posted as a wanderer and two because I have plans for him.

[Judas]

I could pitch Kisirani to be a part of Feraga her opening post didn't really suggest much, and I am bit stuck on what to write for her. So having her in pride might move her story further :3

[Anu]

Apr 2, 2008 12:05:11 GMT Rok said:

Outnumbered by rogues.. Yeah. This is nothing less than stupid. I would like to join in wanderers too and later decide who to join like the story goes. depends what happens to my char and who he/she gets as a friend.
But i am sticking to burja because that's what i was planing a year ago.

My opinion is:
The best thing to do is that wanderers join one of the prides. OK, maybe some time until they dont decide but then again all must join. Who are wanderers on the first place!??!
Far as i know no one likes them! specially in the world of lions! Maybe if prides would mean a threat to them or act rude toward those intruders they would join some much sooner. and decisions they would be making would make the story interesting (broken friendships, betrayal, revenge,... maybe... you know. difficulties we experience in real lifes).

It could be something positive, or personally touching aswell.

The negative start for motavation has been used to death in large amounth of stories.

[Kirsui]

The more wanderers there are the less attention the prides get. and in the end, the two prides are the center of this role play, and so the huge amount of wanderers can end up being quite confusing. it's already hard enough to keep up with events that take place in two different areas (Feraga and Burja), and the wanderers added in make it even more hard.

Plus, as the result of a recent update in the character list, Feraga's amount of chars dropped quite... dramatically.

[Judas]

As said I am willing to pitch Kisirani into the Feraga, if no one has a problem with it. I just need to find something to write for her xP

[Tamber]

Timbre will join someone at some point. I'm mostly planning on him joining Burja after a while. So he won't be a wanderer forever.

[KanuTGL]

Heya, just thought I'd ask, since I've been thinking about this for some time now: what is the main reason the Feraga and Burja hated each other in the first place?
As it is now, if I'm not all wrong, the conflict is based on Sumai wanting revenge for Xena's death and safety for his pride, and that is currently what's keeping the story with the war going. Am I right?

So I was thinking about adding a little more depth into it, and the first thing I thought of was a "fight for rescources" so to speak. Something like that their kingdoms aren't able to supply the two prides with enough food and water during, say, draughts and that that lead to a very high tension between them. So all that was needed was something to trigger the war to make it break out fully.
It'd make the whole conflict more complex, and you wouldn't have to rely on the old general to keep it going xP

I thought I'd ask about it before I add something like this to my post, since Sumai is talking to Mwezi about the war and such. (Yes, I am actually writing a post )

[Katari]

Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was that conflict over resources that was the original cause of friction between the two prides; obviously, Xena's death didn't occur until near the end of Part II, so that is only a burr in the fur of the prides, if you will.

After all of the skirmishes and taking and re-taking of territory, I'd say there is already more than enough scope for conflict without pinning so much of the blame on what happened to Xena. She is dead and gone, after all, and so Burja would have no more reason to fight if that were the only sticking point between them.

[KanuTGL]

Apr 20, 2008 2:16:46 GMT Katari said:

Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was that conflict over resources that was the original cause of friction between the two prides; obviously, Xena's death didn't occur until near the end of Part II, so that is only a burr in the fur of the prides, if you will.

After all of the skirmishes and taking and re-taking of territory, I'd say there is already more than enough scope for conflict without pinning so much of the blame on what happened to Xena. She is dead and gone, after all, and so Burja would have no more reason to fight if that were the only sticking point between them.

That's all right then. I was just wondering since I wasn't sure of it myself; I was looking through Part I to see if there was something concrete said about it, but I didn't find anything(missed it?) so I thought I'd bring it up here, just to make sure I wasn't writing anything stupid in my post. Thanks :3

[Kirsui]

Apr 20, 2008 11:22:30 GMT Rok said:

About resouces and food and water... Count water out. No one can drink all water in the land.

No, they can't.. But during the dry season, the water resources at the savannah can get quite small, and so if there were two large prides of lions and, lets say, only one huge enough waterhole to have water in it during the dry season, it could bring up conflicts between the prides. Especially so if they ware already arguing about food resources.

[Lorien]

It's in Part 1 that the conflict began about food. I read over most of the first part a few weeks ago, trying to get back into the mood and swing of the RP (and my characters). If you look at the beginning conversations of Sitama and Lorien, it's in there.

[KanuTGL]

Part 4?

The Coming Twilight has been going for almost 100 posts longer than Dawn or Revenge, maybe it's time for a 4th thread soon...? Just saying xP How and when could we end this part? And what shall we call the 4th one?

[Kirsui]

Good point there you have Kanu.

I know Mwezi has to get her info to Sumai soon. Well... as soon as everyone survives the massive headache. ;D And Pulsar needs to return from the border, as well as Lorien, Oreo and Onto. But after that I see no reason why we could not start the next part.

The "problem" I think is that originally (if I'm not too badly mistaken) part 3 was going to be about the revenge Feraga would take on Burja. Obviously that hasn't happened yet.

But then again, perhaps we would get to the actual revenge in the next one? And this part is just simply the stage where the plans of revenge are made?

If so, and if we would concentrate on that battle in the next part, we could come up with a name according to that? Something that describes a huge conflict between our two beloved prides?

...I'm so bad at coming up with names... >_> For some reason I've got something like "for blood and honour" going on and about in my head. xDD Don't ask me where that came from. :'D

[KanuTGL]

Sept 26, 2009 16:43:25 GMT Kirsui said:

Good point there you have Kanu.

I know Mwezi has to get her info to Sumai soon. Well... as soon as everyone survives the massive headache. ;D And Pulsar needs to return from the border, as well as Lorien, Oreo and Onto. But after that I see no reason why we could not start the next part.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. And maybe the last thing that happens in this part could be Sumai telling Pulsar and the others his important announcement/reason why he wanted them back at sundown? And then dramatic cut-to-black

Sept 26, 2009 16:43:25 GMT Kirsui said:

The "problem" I think is that originally (if I'm not too badly mistaken) part 3 was going to be about the revenge Feraga would take on Burja. Obviously that hasn't happened yet.

But then again, perhaps we would get to the actual revenge in the next one? And this part is just simply the stage where the plans of revenge are made?

My thoughts exactly This part has been more about recovery than battle, so it seems fitting that the next part contains more fights between the prides. As for names... I have no suggestions either xD

[magiccat]

Ooh goodie, the great battle is getting a new thread! -happy dance-

Hmm...how about....

"Part 4: Red Sky"

Twilight and Dawn made me think of the whole "Red sky at night" mantra and I thought "Red sky at morning, Shepherds warning." As in a warning, Watch out, here comes a battle! So yeagh, my suggestion is "Red Sky"